Audio: Communist Party responds to Obama's SOTU address

The following is an interview with Communist Party Executive Vice Chair Jarvis Tyner in response to President Obama's January 27th state of the union address. It was conducted Thursday January 28th.

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  • Zach ,

    You should not be confused as to why anti-communist people comment on this site. Critical thought demands that a person understand both sides to an issue before making an educated decision. The people who have commented below whether well-reasoned or not are engaging in critical thought. This is a valuable asset to the national debate as to the direction of our country.

    As to "oh well, the educated know better." That is a dangerous train of thought. You should entertain the opposing thought process, if your main goal is critical thought. If a clear, well reasoned, critical understanding is not your primary goal then I would ask that you discontinue the public discourse because you are not arguing for the public, but for yourself. That as we should all know is demagoguery.

    "Communism is not about giving up total freedom." It is certainly not, to give up total freedom is to be dead. Even in the most repressive governments you have the freedom to think. Phrasing yourself this way gives the reader no other conclusion but to agree with you. This in-it-of-itself is a savvy tactic but shows the lack of depth to your defense of communism.

    Now, you have a valid point that managers/owners have control (if you discount minimum wage, unions, and the invisible hand)
    over your wages. But, you have control over where you work. You have control over how hard you work to better educate yourself, how indispensable you make yourself on the job site, how valuable you become to your employer. As you work harder to better yourself you become more powerful. Insomuch as you can now dictate higher wages. The free market rewards your hard work and penalizes stagnation and laziness. It, in short, incentives growth.

    True, all government systems do ask for sacrifice. That is, after all, the social contract Marx, Hegel, Rousseau, Locke, and Hobbes (as well as others) described in their independent works on the nature of government. The key is to allow max state-of-nature (freedom) and minimize subjugation (control).

    "Should you lose...." This is an interesting point, the should i lose. It assumes the government will never lose. Unfortunately, people are flawed by our very nature. Either we are sinners trying to attain godliness or we are creatures ever evolving toward a perfected state. Government, a system of man, is therefor flawed. Government, as such, fails. Hurricane Katrina can be seen as a wondrous testimonial. In that case the people depended, literally on their roofs with sign depended, on the government. The outcome...not utopia. In Utah 2007 they had a flood. The difference is the state and its people acted individually. They brought in upon themselves to help their neighbor. They did not depend upon government aid. By the time the government did show up, the work was well under way. The people not the government are the key to "should you lose..."

    In the state of nature Marx refers to, we have our freedom. Unfortunately, Marx believes it positive to take power from 'faced' individuals and give it to 'unfaced' governments. How he comes to the conclusion that it is better for the proletariat to have 'unfaced' aggressors rather than 'faced' ones is puzzling. Make no mistake the government is an aggressor. If you do not believe me, ask yourself, "would I like Regan or Bush to have the power Marx would bestow upon the governmental leader?"

    One thing to always keep in mind, every power you give the government in this country to a President or congress you approve of will always go to a President and congress you disprove off. Every time a law is passed ask yourself, "Do I want a Republican to have this power?" "Do I want a Democrat to have this power?" or most importantly "SHOULD a Republican or Democrat have this power?"

    I could go on with your reference to biblical text and the morality of communism but I will leave that to another day. Please feel free anyone to contribute to the nation discourse. We all want to see our version of the future, let us discuss our path.

    "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."

    -Thomas Jefferson

    Posted by John Q Public, 02/27/2011 6:57pm (5 years ago)

  • I get so confused as to why anti-communist people comment on this site. Why are you even reading this site?! Oh well, the educated know better. Communism is not about giving up total freedom. That's what some parts of the mixed market economy do now. You have no control over your wages. The manager does. If you don't like your wages/benefits, go work somewhere else! With a 9% unemployment rate, we can certainly find someone else to do your job. Communism does require sacrifice, as all governmental systems do. Shoudl you lose your job, should you lose your house, should you lose your health insurance, don't you want to ensure you and your loved ones will be ok? That's what communism is about. Freedom to have the basic needs no matter what happens to you. Freedom to love what you do because it supports you, your family, and your society. Freedom to be who you are without the political "right" telling you what is moral and what is not according to a book written thousands of years ago, editted thousands of times, and interpreted in thousands of ways by different monarchs. Communism is that I will be taken care of, my family will be taken care, and my societal brother/sister will be taken care of too no matter what.

    Posted by Zach, 02/02/2011 3:30am (5 years ago)

  • Where this mentallity comes from is the idea that, "government will take care of us". Everyone will health care. Everyone will almost make the same money. Whether it's the man sweeping the floor at the shop or the man who owns the shop. The goverment will see to that, by taxing the shop owner to the tune of 75% of all of his profits. There is no private industry at all. All industry is regulated to the hilt by the few "elite" that are involved and profits are taxed such that no industry may be better or more profitable than another. Government will provide for individuals basic needs. There is shelter for the homeless. Food for the hungry. People can be placed in jobs if they can't find them. However, there would be no liberties at all. Freedom to speak out to change things will be strickly prohibited, to the full extent of the law (work camps in Siberia were full of people who spoke out). If you have a marketable skill the government will put it to use, but not pay you too much. No religious freedom. Religion of any kind would not be tollorated.

    My point in all of this is that government taking "care" of everybody under the sacrifice of freedom is not what this country stands for and should not be advocated. In this country, everyone has a chance to live to their full potential and have the freedoms to do it. So, to live with a government taking care of me a little, while I sacrifice a lot, is not a country that I want to live in. It was done by force in Russia. Let's not elect it in here.

    Posted by , 11/05/2010 7:36pm (5 years ago)

  • Wow, I was raised in a communist country, and all I can say is, I'm in schock to think some people would actually support such a party in this country.

    This has to be a joke! You people are fools that dont know any better, It's real easy to claim communism from a free country, but neither of you supporting this have the Cohones to go live in a communist country.

    Just ask yourself one question, Cubans risk there lives in a raft on the Atlantic to find freedom in this country,Chinese risk there lives inside Ocean containers, why so much suffering and struggle to get here? This horrible country you people are trying to make like the one they are trying to run from! Have you ever seen a raft leaving the U.S to get back to Cuba?

    Like I said it's easy to support this crap from a freedom loving country,but really wake up, or should I say, Love it or leave it!

    Posted by Nel, 10/04/2010 11:16am (5 years ago)

  • Though I realize most, if not all Marx’s original aspects of communism have been one way or another enacted as law by our government over the years, I ask how these laws are legal. Furthermore, I ask how any aspect of Communism is legal under the supreme law of this land?

    I believe you should go live in North Korea, China, maybe even Cuba for 5 or 10 years to see how well Communism works before you seek finish imposing it on the last hope for freedom on this planet.

    Posted by DP, 10/04/2010 3:08am (5 years ago)

  • Posted by , 10/02/2010 12:27am (5 years ago)

  • The only thing that would be good about America becoming a communist country is that the liberal Hollywood actresses and actors would be knocked off their high horses and become like regular folks. No more huge estates and no more fat bank accounts. Oh yeah, I'm thinking that I'm starting to like that idea.

    Posted by MKC, 09/30/2010 12:23pm (5 years ago)

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  • Most the anti-communist commenters here have no f'n clue what they are talking about. None of them seem to know any facts at all about communism.... good work CPUSA keep up the good work!

    Posted by Leon, 08/30/2010 12:39pm (5 years ago)

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